To Get the Why, You Need to Know where to Look

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Someone had a go at me  (perhaps) saying “The ego-maniacs arguing about whether MS is T cell or B cell impacted is a wonderful example of the Pharma hold on the Medical Industry”


I disagree this is an academia led issue, MS pharma don’t care, they know where they dropped their wallet:-)


“All the arguments and their associated time wasting hides the essence of the problem. The reason, the ‘why’ factor is the issue with the immune system involvement in any and all chronic diseases”


Your point is well taken, but I have been taking an extreme view on B cells to demonstrate to the T cell dogma, that it needs to think outside of the sterotyped box.  T and B cells do not exist in isolation but for many see “outside of a T cell sphere” only as an after-thought, when T cells a helper cells for others to do the business.


However this is important as highlighted by the “Streetlight effect” as you need to know where to look to find the why, and I thing we have been clear about one route to a “wht”.

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  • So … does that acknowledgement that the ego smoke screen created a drama about which type of immune cells are to 'blame' THEREFORE there has been a lot of time, money and quality of Life for MS px used by Academia for their own purpose not the px's need?
    Is this going to change?
    Academia has the chance to direct the search for the cause of MS and all chronic diseases, which is totally a new direction in Reality from the direction than they are often seen journeying which is disappearing into the wallets of Media and Pharma.
    The facts are that PwMS are individuals and the model/tools that the Medical Industry uses with reductionism and stats plus the take a guess and try this approach doesn't work acknowledge individuals nor does it show that every individual PwMS have personal triggers and a cascade of events over a Life time.
    Does diet, environment and stresses over a Lifetime plus a complex genetic mine field sound too challenging for Academia, GP's and Clinical Specialists with a 10-15 minute appointment system?

  • The immune cells are pawns in a battle, lets loosely label it 'MS' and the directors of the pawns are 'unknown' to the Medical Profession and Pharma.
    The whole picture of the issue for PwMS is that no two patients are the same, the snowflake effect, BUT PwMS share a currency, $$$.
    The patients have found through their persistence that many factors can cause the symptoms and CCSVI and the vascular involvement in MS is one example that members of Academia reject because it also highlights the issues in Academia, the ego-driven drain on PwMS's requests for help!
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/x7u8zoiabxdvdgj/Colin%20Adams%20MS%20.pdf?dl=0&fbclid=IwAR2A9hI5i6EVLMOFXD40fke2dW1ldkEsYINzkW5smmqCGRU90KFg0aM5DN8

  • Having a Day Care style spat over whether T or B cells are the main target for Pharma purposes is 'nice', Pharma will be happy?
    Whether T or B cells are instigated means nothing, think about that for a while!
    They will be involved no matter what if a chronic disease from the spectrum of illnesses from labelling of the System.
    Changing the performance of immune cells ONLY creates down stream effects that will often be negatives long term.
    PwMS are not Guinea-pigs for Researchers and Pharma to play with!
    The immune cell involvement might appear to be the smoking gun holder but they are NEVER the cause, they are the servants of the patients system(s).
    So looking for why is there immune cells involved is of importance to PwMS, sadly it is not to Industry. By Industry I mean that not only the Medicine system Industry but more so the Farming, Processing and Transport Industries and their subgroups in Governments.
    So why do people in Research play the game?
    Why can't they see they are going down the wrong path blaming immune function when immune cells must be involved and must have the gun in hand at various times but they are doing that because they are trained to.
    What is there dysfunction aka chronic illness and why are the immune cells called in to do what they are designed to do?
    There are many, many observers with open minds and open eyes who have seen that 'MS' is not caused by one issue nor is it labelled correctly.
    The key hole observers who refuse to acknowledge this are not helping anyone but themselves, egos aplenty!

  • Is blaming the immune system for doing what it created to do and calling an illness and disability 'auto-immune' simply a sign of Industry dictating to Science by stopping enquiry?

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