Get the New Jab (COVID-19), Get the Flu jab. Get the New Jab, Get the Flu ooh ooh ooh, ooh ooh jab


(Say to the tune of Hallelujah)

Scared to get the jab…ask what are the reasons and then ask what information can support or counter these views and here you through social media in the bin and get information from reputable sources

However, there is hesitancy about vaccines and this includes the flu vaccines

Ziello A, Scavone C, Di Battista ME, Salvatore S, Di Giulio Cesare D, Moreggia O, Allegorico L, Sagnelli A, Barbato S, Manzo V, Capuano A, Maniscalco GT. Influenza Vaccine Hesitancy in Patients with Multiple Sclerosis: A Monocentric Observational Study. Brain Sci. 2021 Jul 5;11(7):890

The so-called “vaccine hesitancy” still represents a common phenomenon that undermines the effectiveness of vaccination campaigns. In 2020, the Italian Medicines Agency recommended to bring forward the flu vaccination campaign, whose importance was also emphasized for patients with Multiple Sclerosis (MS). We aimed to assess vaccination behavior in patients with MS to prepare for the upcoming SARS-CoV-2 vaccination challenge.

Out of 194 patients, 58.2% accepted to be vaccinated.

The results of our study emphasize the importance of education and communication campaigns addressed both to healthcare providers and patients with MS, especially considering that MS patients are currently receiving COVID-19 vaccinations.

So we need to educate about the advantages of the flu jab and one of them may be that it protects you from the adverse effects of COVID-19. This was first reported over a year ago but here is some more supportive data. How does it do it I don’t know but it may juice up your innate immune system (macrophages) to get rid of the virus quicker

Tagihoff et al. Examining the potential benefits of the influenza vaccine against SARS-CoV-2: A retrospective cohort analysis of 74,754 patients. PloS One

Introduction. Recently, several single center studies have suggested a protective effect of the influenza vaccine against severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus-2 (SARS-CoV-2). This study utilizes a continuously updated Electronic Medical Record (EMR) network to assess the possible benefits of influenza vaccination mitigating critical adverse outcomes in SARS-CoV-2 positive patients from 56 healthcare organizations (HCOs).

Methods: The de-identified records of 73,346,583 patients were retrospectively screened. Two cohorts of 37,377 patients, having either received or not received influenza vaccination six months–two weeks prior to SARS-CoV-2 positive diagnosis, were created. Adverse outcomes within 30, 60, 90, and 120 days of positive SARS-CoV-2 diagnosis were compared between cohorts.

Results: SARS-CoV-2-positive patients who received the influenza vaccine experienced decreased sepsis (p<0.01, Risk Ratio: 1.361–1.450, 95% CI:1.123–1.699, NNT:286) and stroke (p<0.02, RR: 1.451–1.580, 95% CI:1.075–2.034, NNT:625) across all time points. ICU admissions were lower in SARS-CoV-2-positive patients receiving the influenza vaccine at 30, 90, and 120 days (p<0.03, RR: 1.174–1.200, 95% CI:1.003–1.385, NNT:435), while approaching significance at 60 days (p = 0.0509, RR: 1.156, 95% CI:0.999–1.338). Patients who received the influenza vaccine experienced fewer DVTs 60–120 days after positive SARS-CoV-2 diagnosis (p<0.02, RR:1.41–1.530, 95% CI:1.082–2.076, NNT:1000) and experienced fewer emergency department (ED) visits 90–120 days post SARS-CoV-2-positive diagnosis (p<0.01, RR:1.204–1.580, 95% CI: 1.050–1.476, NNT:176).

Conclusions:Our analysis outlines the potential protective effect of influenza vaccination in SARS-CoV-2-positive patients against adverse outcomes within 30, 60, 90, and 120 days of a positive diagnosis. Significant findings favouring influenza vaccination mitigating the risks of sepsis, stroke, deep vein thrombosis (DVT), emergency department (ED) & Intensive Care Unit (ICU) admissions suggest a potential protective effect that could benefit populations without readily available access to SARS-CoV-2 vaccination. Thus further investigation with future prospective studies is warranted.

Disclaimer: Please note that the opinions expressed here are those of the author and do not reflect the positions of the Barts and The London School of Medicine and Dentistry nor Barts Health NHS Trust or Queen Mary Univeristy of London.

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  • I’m double vaccinated for Covid and noticed no lasting adverse effects (although my menstrual cycle is still a bit awry). However, I’m scared of the flu vaccine, as the two times I had it previously, I associated it with unusual MS symptoms.

  • p.s. I have normally very slow PPMS and what you say about juicing up the innate immune system makes me wonder. Is the flu vaccine different to the Covid vaccine in this regard?

  • one of them may be that it protects you from the adverse effects of COVID-19.

    Ok hope this is not a silly question but,

    Does it work the other way around?

    Ie: covid vaccine may protects you from flu?


  • Having been classed as clinically extremely vulnerable I will get a booster vaccine sometime in the autumn supposedly along with the flu jab in the other arm
    In anticipation of the government messing up I have already booked a flu vaccination in with my local Boots early September but I have a question
    Because there has not been flu circulating for example in Australia this year the common strain is not yet known so should I wait until later in the autumn to see which strain is circulating which will probably lead to the flu vaccination being tweaked?

    • Flu vaccines for Northern hemisphere are set in February each year, based on a best guess of circulating strains, which since there is not much circulating anywhere this will be difficult as you point out. However, the production processes are not flexible enough to allow for flu vaccines to be tweaked midway through. So waiting for a month or so won’t make any difference.

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